The Spiritual Deception of Yoga

William - Fife, Scotland

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It is the purpose of this short testimony to show that yoga is a spiritual deception. 

If you think that you can use yoga only for physical training and not be affected by its spiritual side, you are wrong. You are wrong if you believe the many websites and teachers in the West who declare that yoga is just a harmless physical exercise.

The Bible warns of such spiritual seduction: “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;” (1 TIMOTHY 4:1).

Speaking from my own experience, I am convinced that yoga is one of the seducing doctrines God expressly warns about in the above scripture. I started yoga at age 16, and practiced every day for 1-2 hours. It seemed to strengthen my body and improve my flexibility. At the age of 18, I dived into it (I was at that time unemployed) and did some 4-6 hours of yoga daily. I was convinced that yoga enlightened my own spiritual intelligence and enhanced my physical fitness. I would have vehemently denied that there is anything religious in yoga or that I was in any way influenced by the spiritual or religious aspects of yoga. The following is why I think differently today.

The Roots of Yoga

Let us take a small look at the roots of the yoga tree - and also have a smell at some of its fruit - for well did Christ say in MATTHEW 7:16Ye shall know them by their fruits.

I am convinced that yoga is one of the seducing doctrines God expressly warns about...

It was the Lord Krishna (one of Hindu's many millions of deities), in the Bhagavad Gita, who introduced the ritual of yoga as a way of achieving union with the universe. The Sanskrit word yoga actually means "union" or "yoking", aiming at bringing about the union of the human spirit with the spirit of the universe. But what is more deeply meant is a separation from the physical illusion of life.

A great part of Hindu teaching is that this world and all we see, is nothing more than an illusion.

Ironically, while yoga in the west is, more often than not, promoted as a way to achieve health and a better way of living; in the east, where it originated, it is more openly understood to be a way of dying.

In Hindu and Buddhist writings yoga is described as the only sure way of escaping the endless cycle of reincarnation and the laws of karma, thereby enabling someone to reach the Hindu idea of heaven (named "moksha") – or in the terminology of Buddhist teachings, to return to the buddhistic void (named "Sunyata") - where the idea of it being a way of dying reaches its finality.

Moksha is by most Hindu schools understood to mean the state "which is beyond being", while "Sunyata" means simply emptiness. Both of these accomplishments have, as their finality, the destruction of the self.

In other words, the physical exercises and positions ("asanas"), along with the breathing techniques ("pranayama"), and meditation ("dhyana") were originally developed for VERY spiritual and religious reasons. The Bhagavad Gita testifies of it in over 50 verses, and certainly it would be difficult not to classify the Bhagavad Gita as a guide to Hindu religion.1

How Yoga Became Popular in the West

Although yoga has been known to the West since before Christ, and has been practiced in the East for almost 3000 years, it really only took off in the West in a significant way around the same time of the explosion of the drug culture in the 60’s, and the growth of certain types of music.

Many people involved with psychedelic drugs were (and are still today) attracted to any experience that offered an expansion of conscience, or a change of perceived reality.

It was due to this changing Western (drug) culture that many Hindu missionaries (among other spiritual leaders peddling new religions) slowly began to realise that through the new psychedelic experiences, the West was now entertaining a transcendental experience, or non-physical reality that it had previously been unaware of—or more likely, had simply chosen to ignore. Mind expansion, or altered states of conscience and a search for spirituality, without the constraints of religion were suddenly all the rage, and anything that offered a new experience was sought after with great interest. Very few questions were asked as to the source of these new highs and experiences.

Thus the West was gradually introduced to an ancient Eastern religion through the medium of yoga.

One of the Lies Today

One branch or path of yoga is called Hatha Yoga and this is probably what most people in the West associate with the word "yoga" – believing it is being practised only for mental and physical health.2

Some of the positions in yoga are not quite as harmless as they may appear, but are obviously of occult origin, as in the “cobra”, which is usually followed by “greeting the sun” – and taking the pose of the “mountain”. These are all positions which are designed to welcome Hindu gods.

In the Hatha Yoga Pradipika it mentions the following in chapter one:

Salutations to Shiva, who taught the science of Hatha Yoga. It is the aspirant’s stairway to the heights of Raja Yoga... Yogi Svatmarama … explains the science of hatha for one reason – Raja Yoga.

So here we see clearly that Hatha Yoga was specifically designed to lead the practitioner onto Raja Yoga. Raja Yoga, however, is chiefly concerned with the cultivation of the mind through meditation.

Shiva is also known as the Destroyer (of evil) or Yogeshwara (Lord of Yogis). Shiva's consort is Devi, or Kali, the goddess of death.

Therefore, the idea that Hatha Yoga is "purely physical" is very much once again a distortion of the truth (in other words, an outright lie) and indeed begs the question "Why the cover up or confusion?"

Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Astrology signs and symbols may all seem harmless to some, but like yoga, they have an idea attached

Of course, it could be asked whether something purely physical can have any spiritual implications. One needs only look at such practices as Ouija boards, Tarot cards, Astrology signs and symbols may all seem harmless to some, but like yoga, they have an idea attached to them that is the problem.

A further example that shows how something physical can have spiritual implications is to be found in the account of the Garden of Eden. For in Genesis chapter 3 we have an introduction to the enemy of God and mankind, making the suggestion to Adam’s wife, Eve, that by doing something purely physical (i.e. eating from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) she would not only receive a mighty spiritual blessing, but would indeed live forever, and become as a god.

The real result of this action was Adam and Eve being cast out from Eden and the Fall of Man. Ever since then, man has been trying to sneak back into paradise by jumping over the hedge as it were (using drugs and mysticism).

Karma & Reincarnation

Yoga was specifically designed as a way to escape the constant and never-ending deaths and rebirths of reincarnation - ("...the fire of yoga burns all Karmas", Kundalini Yoga, by Sri Swami Sivananda).

There is much discussion amongst the various Hindu branches concerning karma itself. It is variously claimed that it is not so strict, that it does not always come to pass in this life, it may not come to pass for a few lives, and some consider Karma to be a very just law, as it demands equal in repayment (very much a black eye for a black eye). In any case, as a "law" it is very impersonal, and knows no pity neither does it accept any extenuating circumstances.

If it is a law that demands equal in repayment, then the following sequence of events must occur:

If I steal from someone - I will have something stolen from me, in this life or a next. This means that someone else will have to take the role of thief (#2). Which means that thief #2 will have something stolen from him, in this life or a next. This means that someone else will have to take the role of thief (#3)….And so the wheel turns continually.

Does one remember what one did wrong? Believers in reincarnation will respond with "in the sub-conscience" but how may I change if it is locked away in my sub-conscience? How can I learn from it?

Reincarnation, which was designed to help us work off bad karma, can be upwards or downwards - meaning I could be reborn as an animal or even a vegetable (of course, the various branches of Hindu disagree on this also).

Basically I am being given countless chances, in order to reach a heaven where my personality is then destroyed.

To further investigate this, we shall take an example of such a person as Pol Pot (leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge) - responsible for the deaths of 1.7 to 2.5 million persons.

In order to work off his bad karma, he would have to participate in a minimum of - let’s say a conservative 1.5 million - reincarnations (that's ignoring the tortured victims whose lives he also destroyed).

The idea of karma however goes so far that some believers will not help people...

The idea of karma however goes so far that some believers will not help people - as you may inadvertently be helping someone who is in trouble due to bad karma, and who is supposed to be working it off - and so by helping them you actually take away their chance to work it off.

This all stands of course in total opposition to the Word of God - as stated in HEBREWS 9:27 - "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"

Is it not a strange situation that in India, where the teaching of karma and reincarnation has been alive for longer than anywhere else in the world, that the economic progress there only breeds social injustice and that poverty, starvation and terrible suffering just continue to increase?

Personal Result of Yoga - Awakening Kundalini

It may be true that the asanas (positions) and even perhaps the pranayama (breathing) can have health benefits, but the ultimate goal in yoga is something much more sinister. Very few Western yoga teachers actually touch upon this aspect of yoga – but according to the ancient texts, it is indeed the main aim - the asanas and the pranayama really intend to produce the awakening of what is known as "kundalini power", which is taught as being a snake coiled around the base of the spine.

When this serpent is awakened, it will then move up through the body, through the "chakras" (the so-called life-force centres) and once it reaches the "crown chakra" (or the top of the head) it will explode into the so called "thousand-petalled lotus".

This is when the danger really starts, and for many people from this point onwards it is almost impossible to return to any semblance of normality. The ancient texts actually include a warning about this, but most Western teachers are either ignorant of it, being too aware of the vast revenues that yoga can bring in, or are indeed themselves deceived and are willingly leading people down a very dangerous path.

Swiss occultist Carl Jung, in his book “The Collected Works of CG Jung" - termed it "a deliberately induced psychotic state". Now, in most societies, deliberately inducing a psychotic state in oneself would lead to various sections of the Mental Health Act being quoted whilst having oneself bundled into a white van by some police officers.

I myself came very close to this stage. After I practiced yoga intensively (4-6 hours a day) for about a year, I began to be very depressed and nervous, but as I was unaware of the cause of this depression, I continued to use yoga as a way of filling my day.

One day, whilst being deep in pranayama and meditation, something in my mind exploded...

One day, whilst being deep in pranayama and meditation, something in my mind exploded, and my conscience turned white. Suddenly, there were beings dressed in white robes at my side (in the corner of my eye only, in my peripheral vision), telling me that they would guide me into a new life if I would only continue with my yoga.

I did not like that too much, and did not understand what was happening; neither had any of the books I had been reading mentioned anything about this manifestation, so I stopped. I was left in a sort of semi-aware state at that point (similar to the point one would reach just before or after the peak of an LSD trip), and I was also very much aware of what I could only describe as a rent in the fabric of this reality.

I went back into my asanas / pranayama the next day again, and within minutes these spiritual beings were back, with the same advice. They were insistent that I listen to them. There was a palpable anger now also given off by them, as I had consciously rejected them by stopping the day before.

I stopped again, and never returned to it. But I was always aware that these spirit-beings were angry with me, and I had no peace at all from then on. Only in drunken oblivion or drugs could I find any peace.

What Do You Do about It?

Things may not have become as bad as that for you, but be aware anyway – if you practice yoga, you practice Hinduism; and the more you do it, the more you open yourself up to the spiritual side of it. Thousands of others have experienced very similar things while practising yoga. Not all have been as fortunate as I in being set free from this – many have become insane, or indeed been driven to suicide.3

It was at the point in my life when things really got out of control that I met a Christian and I started going to Christian meetings (more for the very decent food than anything else). On the second meeting I was offered the opportunity to really find and experience God.

I received the Holy Spirit within seconds through the laying on of hands, as described in the Acts of the Apostles. As soon as I had received this freely given gift from God, a real peace came; the voices and pressures left, and joy and realisation came almost instantly. The blackness that had followed me around (the "rent in the fabric of this reality") was also gone.

My life has changed drastically since then. Instead of constantly focusing on myself I try to focus on other people. Instead of trying to find self-fulfillment through yoga, I found true peace. Yoga is a very selfish way of life, yet it doesn’t produce the results hoped for. Instead it is a lie and brings only destruction. How true are Christ’s words in MATTHEW 16:25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

So many try to “save their lives” (fill the void in their lives) through all sorts of things, including yoga, but the void will never be filled – they will end up losing their eternal soul.

We live only once, and while here in this life, we are to follow the example of Jesus Christ as presented in the Bible. When we die, "we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad" - 2 CORINTHIANS 5:10. Those who were born-again through receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit and by full submersion baptism, and who have given their lives in following Christ, may enter the eternal paradise of the soul where only love, joy and peace abide, in personal fellowship with Jesus Christ. The sinner and rebel against God will be removed from His presence after this judgment, and placed into a place of eternal torment.

...Do you want to follow Shiva ...who is also named the Destroyer - or Christ

You have to make a choice: Do you want to follow Shiva (who taught the “science” of Hatha Yoga) who is also named the Destroyer - or Christ, who came to heal and save, and who has proved by His life, death and resurrection that He is Lord and that He loves us without us having done anything to deserve it.

Yoga is not just a harmless physical exercise, it opens the door to demonic control. On which side do you ultimately want to stand? The devil’s or Christ’s? The consequences are more serious than you might realise.

JOHN 10:10 - "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

And how is this abundant life given by Jesus Christ?

JOHN 3:5 - "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

by William Downs, Newburgh, Scotland, Wednesday, April 21, 2010

  • 1. One need only read the writing of E.A Wilder-Smith (The Cause and Cure of the Drug Epidemic and The Drug Users) or Charles T. Tart, 'The End of Materialism - How Evidence of the Paranormal is Bringing Science and Spirit Together or Altered States of Consciousness' to more clearly understand this relationship.

    That the drug culture explosion in the 60's was very much a carefully controlled operation is not generally known. This statement itself may be the topic for hours of discussion and may unfortunately belong to the genre of "conspiracy theory" - however, most people who have any sort of interest in these topics are aware of the LSD experiments carried out by certain US Government agencies - starting in the 1950's with Project MKULTRA. (The Search for the Manchurian Candidate: The CIA and Mind Control, by John Marks, and also Acid Dreams: The Complete Social History of LSD: The CIA, the Sixties, and Beyond, by Martin A. Lee)

  • 2. Hatha Yoga basically describes any of the physical practices of yoga. Yoga has eight limbs, only one of which, asana, involves doing yoga poses. When you do lyengar, this is hatha yoga; when you do ashtanga, this is hatha yoga also. Therefore, “Hatha yoga” can be used interchangeably with simply “yoga”.
  • 3. Watch for example the film “Gods of the New Age” which includes testimonies of yoga teachers who describe in detail that which I described above.

Comments

Thank you so much for this article!!! This morning, I came across a post on Facebook and it was about why a "Christian should not practice yoga". I thought I was delusional in thinking that yoga was a form of spiritual exercises relating to the deities and when I did some research, I realised I wasn't delusional! Then I came across your article and found more truths about yoga. I actually tried it a few times , I just sat on either the floor or bed with my legs crossed and tried to close my eyes and prevent myself from stressing and I found that it didn't take me anywhere because my life is in Christ and His life is in mine and I've been prevented from engaging with yoga by falling asleep or just being lazy to stretch my muscles. I knew it was God that did that so that I might not engage in any form of spiritual practices. Sleeping and lazying around is something I enjoy doing when I'm tired of studying or when I have spare time and maybe God used that to get me away from yoga. Some sort of protection. After reading your article and another article from Corinna Craft, I repented again and asked God to forgive me and release me from my sin. Attempting it was a sin for me and now I'm reassured that yoga is wrong. I'm an Indian from SA. I was born in a Christian home but surrounded by hindu's who practice these things. In high-school, I had a teacher who used to teach us Life Orientation and she used to make us meditate and it wasn't a part of our syllabus so I used to close my eyes and she used to say that we must hug ourselves and look for the sun. I honestly used to think that it was utter nonsense and I used to laugh about it. If I could turn back time, I would have told my teacher not to make us do the meditation because other kids may have been influenced by it.

Anyway, I'm going to try and use your article and some other articles to open the eyes of people who are completely blinded by everything that the world offers.

Thank you once again! Your article has really been inspiring and educational, especially as a Christian.

Regards, Bernice.

Greetings Bernice,

many thanks indeed for these warm words of support. It was not for praise that I wrote this article, but hearing that it has helped someone is a joy indeed.

A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver. Proverbs 25:11

And thanks greatl for using this article to reach others. That is what it is all about.

Sincere blessings in Christ,

William

Thank you for this article.
My husband has become a yoga instructor. At first, he said it was just for exercise. Sadly, he has become deeper involved. This, among other things, has driven us apart.
Before I did research, I tried yoga and never liked it. I believe this was the Holy Spirit preventing me from liking it.
My husband is Indian and raised Hindu, so I understand how it would be easy for him to revert back to yoga.
I am really concerned for him!
Please help me pray for him.

Thank you for this informative and insightful post! I came upon it while searching for help in explaining the evil behind, what appears to the uninformed, a healthy and beneficial way of life. The sharing of your personal experience really drives home the seriousness of this issue. Even the negative comments, which you graciously allow, shows the lack of any proof for the opposition's argument. Instead, those comments focus on personal attacks, which one expects from those who follow anything demonic in origin. Even those "spiritual beings" that you experienced could not contain their anger for long. This has always been one of the hallmarks of evil.
Thanks again for your good work and God bless!

Many thanks for your kind words of encouragement.

It was indeed the personal experience that caused me to write this, the information herein can be obtained from other web sites and books etc.

Yes, my approval of negative comments is usually with the aim of teaching some urther point. We are of course exhorted to:

Romans 12: 18  If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 21  Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

This can sometimes prove difficult, but the negative comments help me check myself and ensure that I am thankful to Christ.

Many blessigs

William

Thank you so much for your article. I am a 58 year old woman and have been a Christian for 40 years and when I committed my life to Christ at age 18, I had to renounce some stuff. Since then, I have been careful not to get entangled with things that might invite demonic activity.

This has not really become an issue for me, until recently. I was diagnosed with Osteoporosis and my doctor wanted to put me on medications to prevent fractures. I did not want to do this because these medications have serious side effects : you can break your jaw, you can break your thigh bone and you can get cancer of the esophagus.

So, I was looking for natural ways to gain bone. I changed my diet, increased the vitamins I was taking and then I was looking for exercise that would increase bone.

Many other people that are going this natural route are doing Yoga. When I first heard that Yoga was the best exercise for bones, I thought, "Isn't Yoga connected with Hinduism?" I did not know anything beyond that. A friend of mine goes to a "Christian" yoga class and invited me. I have tried to go several times and each time I was prevented.(I think I was prevented by the Holy Spirit.) I have been researching Yoga and weight bearing exercise on the Internet and every time I would pull up another article on the benefits of it, that still small voice would say, "You still need to research the spiritual aspects." So, I have been googling about whether Christians should do Yoga. There are all kinds of views. Many people say they play Christian music and do Yoga or pray to Jesus and do Yoga.

But, I wanted to know spiritually what was going on when you did the body positions. And your article answered my questions. I guess I have just been really uneducated, but I did not know that the Yoga positions were actually worship positions and that people were worshiping idols (or demons). And since that is what is going on, you can, innocently, open yourself up to demons.

I have experienced spiritual attacks in the past, mostly in the form of bad dreams. I had several bad dreams recently and wondered why. Now, I think it is because I have been thinking of doing Yoga and trying to "Christianize" it.

I now know that I need to find another form of exercise for my bones. Weight bearing and balance can be done without Yoga and that is now my goal.

I do not believe that God would keep me from being healthy. So, He is able to help me to get the exercise I need in order to have healthy bones.

Psalm 84:11 (ASV) For Jehovah God is a sun and a shield: Jehovah will give grace and glory; No good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

Thank you for your insights. They have helped me to make a sound, godly decision.

God Bless

Linda

Greetings Linda,

Many thanks for both sharing your story and also for your kind words of support. They mean a lot.

I try to be fair in approving comments (for I wrote the article and can also do the approval on comments) - I do not automatically block a comment purely on it's disagreeing with me. However, if it contains rudeness or simple attacking, then I do not see the point in approving it.

I can only say "amen" to what you wrote above, as well as "well done" to your listening the the "wee small voice" that instructed you to check out the spiritual side of yoga. My article can be gleaned from many different sources on the wbe and in books. My personal experiance was terryfying in the extreme. If any of it helps then Glory to God in the highest, who has allowed such thngs to be published.

I am also no spring chicken now, so I swim almost every day. It reduces the weight on my ankles and hips so I can do simple leg stretching exercises between pool lengths. Helps my back also.

Take care, Christ is returning soon, let us be found in Him, full of His Word the Holy Bible and full of His Spirit.

Pax et Lux, in Christ

William

Hello! My name is Kennedy, I'm 17 and I feel blessed to have come across this. Before I read this article, I read things from another website which also mentions this sort of thing and I can't believe I've been so blind. Also I actively want to follow Jesus and grow in Him. I haven't been baptised yet but I do plan to!

I do have a question though. Since we can't do yoga because it makes us vulnerable to....you know. What else can we do that can help our bodies? Do you know of any other things? I never have practiced Yoga religiously and same with meditation. (I haven't done much of it all really.. like if I were to gauge a percentage on how much I've done it in my life time or at least tried, it'd be 2-5%) I don't know, I've always felt strange about meditation and not in a good way. As if I suspected it of something, like how you have a bad hunch about something? That's what I felt, but I couldn't put my finger on it. So I guess that must have been the Holy Spirit or Jesus/God trying to tell me, "HEY, *Sirens sounding* WATCH OUT, WATCH OUT." Currently, I'm very unflexible and don't really want to stay this way as it feels sort of unhealthy in a way? I don't know. Especially since I have scoliosis (been diagnosed a year or two or three ago) and it's very important for me to keep my spine in the best possible shape I can. Is there any other ways or stretches to do other than yoga so I can still be in good health in a physical aspect?

And boy, what you mentioned about how some people can be so much as drawn to SUICIDE? Oi, that's intense, really scary. Don't want to be apart of anything that causes such things as you've mentioned. Don't worry, I haven't even TOUCHED Ouiji boards, tarot cards, or the like and do not plan to for the rest of my life. ....Oh! I forgot what I was going to say other than that!! xD Argh, oh well..

Other than that, thank you for this informative article and I hope to hear from you soon!

Hi Kennedy,

many thanks indeed for your kind words and interest. It does sound like you had a close call.

You asked about exercises for your back? ) Well, I go swimming and interspace each length with some gentle stretching whilst in the pool. It's easier to do this for me when still in the pool as I don't have my body weight to deal with. But I am not a doctor or any sort of proffesional concerning exercises, so it would be better to speak to a consultant of some time if you really have problems.

I attended some exercise classes later on in life, and within a few days the teacher suddenly introduced the cobra, greeting the sun and ... I immediately left the room. When they asked me as to why I had left the room and I explained about the poses, they tried to say that it was not yoga ... I left immediately.

So, best find out from a proffesional - and if he starts with any mention of yoga, you know it's the wrong person.

Exercise in itself is fine, just ensure that it is not connected to any false gods.

Hope all goes well young man, you take care, seek the Lord and GET BAPTISED. This link may be of some help in making that decision: https://www.cai.org/bible-studies/baptism

Of course, baptism follows REPENTANCE - get saved before ths world is no more for you.

Pax et Lux - William

Very narrow minded article. please read up on the lives of Christian Mystics(such as Francis of Assisi, Teresa of Avila)who share similar experiences with Hindu Yogis, Sufi Mystics.As the Vedas declare, " Truth is one but the wise call it by various names". Please don't attack Yoga and Vedanta because of their practices but instead study and compare healthily their philosophies which are highly logical. Please don't be blind followers. Reason out your beliefs with the logic and intelligence God has given you.

Hello there. I am a 60 year old Irish woman and I have been practising yoga for 25 years. Teaching yoga for 15 years. I can only say that I am mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually stronger and more awake than I have ever been in my life.I am also a Christian and my faith in Christ has never faltered. The negative comments on this site from 'Christians' just make me laugh. You neither seem to understand Christianity nor Hinduism nor Yoga!!!!!You are very obviously Americans - asleep. Time has come to waken up.Central America has the highest rate of anti-depressant use in the world.It would appear that some evil is succeeding in making you all mindless!Maybe you need to take a look within yourselves. Will keep you in my prayers!
Blessings and kindness.

Dear Anonymous,
I would urge you to take the matter directly to God in prayer by meditating on His word for your eternal soul depends upon it. Many people call themselves Christian but the word of God is not in them. Many Christians call themselves the light and the salt of the earth but are still living with darkness in them. They love the sin and idolatry, but the truth is that sin will lead anyone to perish. Did God not say in his word that “because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold--I am about to spit you out of my mouth”. Let me remind you that while you are still alive in this physical world you still have a chance of saving your soul. Your children and your family from the pit of hell that the devil is dragging the children of disobedience to at this very moment. Do not be fooled God cannot be mocked no is he a man that he shall lie.

One day you will wake up and be thankful that you posted an article on this site. Now is not the time to sleep, now is not the time to be lazy, now is not the time to mock. Did the Lord not say in his word that “Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left”? I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left? Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. Two women will be grinding oat at the mill; one will be taken and one left”. Did he not say in his word, No gathering up the tares (children of disobedience), you may uproot the wheat (true Christians) with them. “Let both grow together until the harvest (judgment). At the proper time I will tell the harvesters (angels), "First collect the weeds (children of disobedience), and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat (true Christians) into my barn." Let me tell you that the harvest is coming very soon, please do not let yourselves be catch up unaware by then it will be too late.

I pray in the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ that every veil upon your eyes are ripped opened, so that you can see the gospel of the Lord which is the Glory of God. In this life there are many trials, the Devil goes around seeking whom he can devour. Give him no ground and he will flee from you. Jesus promised us the spirit of Truth. "When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father--the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father--he will testify about me”. Give your life to Jesus Christ and be led by the Holy Ghost. The only voice of God that you should listen to within your spirit not other gods, let me break some of it down; demons also known as fallen angels, spirit of new age religions, spirit of Islam, spirit guides. Test every spirit that claim to be from God. Paul show us how in the book of Ephesians. Read it and be familiar with the amour of God and the word of God so that you cannot be deceived.

The grace of the Lord and the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with you now and forever.

Greetings, and many thanks for using the web site.

Please allow me to correct a couple of points you raise.

I am NOT American (not sure where you get that from), I am Scottish by birth and have spent most of my life living in different European or Asian countries. Saying that - I would love to visit America - I love Americans, love their character and intensity of spirit, but due to my earlier brushes with the police, I am not allowed to enter their country (but Christ forgave me and allows me into His country and it is only His country that matters) - you attacking Americans en-masse is a rather strange thing for a Christian to do -

Acts 10:34  Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35  But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Proverbs 24:23  These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment.

However, Mathew 7:20  Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

I am saddened at some of your comments - you "laugh" at me because my understanding is different from yours? Is mocking a person for having a different understanding than yours  not the antithesis of being open-minded?)

You say that I have no understanding of Christianity or Hinduism or Yoga, although my writings fully agree with a host of other Christian writings that can be found on the Internet or in Christian bookshops (by which I mean that I am not alone in my understanding by any means)

Of course, practising Yoga (or any other occultic practice) is heavily forbidden and leads to spiritual blindness, so my warnings in this page often do fall on deaf ears (unless the Lord Jesus grants repentance and and understanding)

1 John 2: 11  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

Some further seeking on this matter will help you to see the truths - there are a host of web pages dedicated to proclaiming these truths, as well as a host of books. However, THE Book, God's Word, the Bible, is full of warnings against practicing other religions. It describes in detail the purity of a Christian life. It also describes those doctrines of demons which will be prevelant in the end times, doctrines of demons. Yoga and the other mystic practices are surely included in these doctrines of demons.

My page on Yoga stemmed form the experiance of the horrors and Kundalini awakening, from meeting demons disguised as spiritual beings. The learning came later. When I received the Holy Spirit, and was set free from the demonic influences (demonic influences that were brought about by Yoga) the Bible became real to me, and I believe that this the also the experiance of many people who have found Christ after practicing satanic activities, and indulging in sin.

In Christ,

William

So if we are not ment to fare the spirit world while we are alive why is it that we dream in our sleep. If you listen closely you can hear the humm of consciousness. As you go to bed your existance vibrates differently and you experience the altered state. Ive just been doing yoga for a couple weeks now and have been interested in all things religion science new age and all that. Only because i like to think for myself and listen to my own conclusions on the matter. There is only one earth and all of these ideas have sprung from it. There is also a spirit world and it is inhabited. But if these things exist and we experience them we are a part of them. I love jusus and i simply love love. I never hurt anyone and i try not to judge anyone. The thing ive learned about yoga is this. The stretches open the chackras and within them you chant the power of hindu dieties and elements to change your etheral or energy body to your desired state. I learned that yesterday and ive been going back and forth from christianity to agnostic and back to understanding the magick of yoga. Which lets face it is really what all things metaphysical are. Its chaos magick. You create an abstract thought and the energy which is what thought is changes how you act and think so desired effects occur. All of the christian teachings are the same. There is truth and its the same one that trees know the same one that birds and monkies know. Its that there is only this moment this experience and whatever you are you learn and grow from it. The one thing i know is that i dont want to embed gods into my chackras and i dont want to follow blindly into anything.

Hi there,

Many thanks for taking time to comment.

Dreams, whether given by the Lord or from whatever other source, are mainly outside of our control. The Bible does suggest that the Lord sometimes warns us in dreams, He sometimes confirms what we already think (in order to provide a catylist to perform something) Scriptures about dreaming abound: (for example Genesis 37:5-8, Acts 2:17 and especially in: Job 33: 14  For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
15  In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;
16  Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,

Many more examples of dreams in scripture can be found.

If you love Jesus Chris, the "the author and finisher of our faith" - and you know His Word, then you will know that in the New Testament, He cast demons out, He did not invite them, whihc is what Yoga does. He also gave his disciples power and authority over evil spirits, to the end that mankind should be free (Acts 10:38  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.)

Yoga is a great deception, leading those who partake of it down a very dark road indeed, one which only leads to an eternity in hell. For many this will only be made clear at the point of death when the veil is pulled back and they are then shown that the spirits they danced with in Yoga are in reality demons who are bent on the destruction of the human soul.

Jesus Christ died for us and sent the Holy Spirit to come and live in us so that we might be free of these deceptions and so that we could become one with Him. Yoga teaches you to become one with the world around you - but again the Word of God says in 1 John2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Pax et lux

William

Your sad devotion to the ancient zombie on a stick religion is repugnant. Your condemnation of anyone and anything that does not fit into your narrow and dim view galls me and most any other intelligent individuals. How you can profess to be devoted to and live for a religion that slaughtered millions in "God's name" if your God was really loving and all that, dont you think he would have put a stop to the wanton and wholesale slaughter in "His" name? if for no other reason than to say "Hey, I didnt ok this, this is not my will, dont be mislead by these assholes who say that I wanted this."

Hi there,

My, you do have strong views.

Atrocities have been committed in the Name of Christ, although Christ would never have condoned it. I know from the Bible that Christ Jesus would have wept at this...He will not turn a blind eye to people who have killed in His Name. His words were only of love and forgivness.

He did tell people to repent and to stop sinning, but would never force anyine to.

You really need to have a good read at the Bible, especially the New Testament (which describes the life of Christ) - you would see the truth of this.

We mustt all face God the Father on the day of Judgement and give account of what we have done in this life.

Pax et Lux,

William

The Holy One bless you,
Your reply to the angry person was done with such kindness. it touched me. And may Yahweh bless the angry person as well.
In Yeshua's name
a friend

Jesus christ said these things about meditation & the light, 1st john,1,5; This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
luke 17,21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you
Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

and this one is a big warning for liers to stop lying
luke11,52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.”
matt23;13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Very nice posts and really appreciate all the comments. Here is my situation. My girlfriend is involved in yoga and I did not have a problem until we started getting closer and more serious. After we did get closer the yoga felt like it was pushing us apart. Her own friends made comments they thought she was too deep into yoga. Those comments were made to her even before I was in the picture. She told me of the comments. I told her from what I see that yoga is teaching self and the bible is teaching others first. This has been how I felt and I take my faith very serious. i have made those comments to her and she says she knows. What is scary is she has told me feels like thru her the devil is making my life harder and she feels guilty about that. the posts have really brought light to this subject and i will need to do my homework on this matter of yoga. i do love her very much and hope she will see how this is casing us problems. thank you all again.

Many thanks for reading this post.

I do hope that things work out properly. We are told in 2 Corinthians 6:14  Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

I also had a girlfriend when I came to know Christ, and she refused to even look at the truth, but wanted to continue in her sinning life. Salvation is more important that getting close to someone. As it also says in 1 Timothy 4:16  Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.

My personal experiances aside, there is a wealth of information out in the internet about the dangers of yoga.

The great end times are coming, and we all need to be ready, with our lives mirroring that of Christ.

Blessings

William

I am speechless. I had wanted to try yoga at one time, I even enrolled for a free trail class; I remember I was so excited to go to the class and before I left the house that day my mom told me plainly: "You can't serve two masters, you must choose one." I was so confused and disturbed by her words I ended up not going to the yoga session. I looked it up online and found out that Christians shouldn't do yoga, but no one really explained why. I just got a christian workout DVD and the workout person threw in one or two yoga poses and I thought, it can't be all that bad since its not a full yoga workout. When I read your post I saw that the 3 moves she has in there were ones used to salute Hindu Gods! The sun salute, Updog and the Cobra one. I am very speechless, thank you for this post, your experience will surely set others on the right path. In a way you could say this ordeal had happened to you for a reason. Look at all of the comments, people are now informed about the hidden message of yoga. You may have saved many from going down a path of destruction. Thank you so much, God Bless You.

Many thanks indeed for your kind words, and your testimony, for what you write shows clearly that the Lord has taken care of you...

That which I have written herein can be found in many different books, websites etc, as also the personal experiance is not unique to myself. Still, the Lord be blessed indeed for leading you to read this testimony in such a timely fashion, as well as for His leading in writing it...

Sincere greetings in Christ,

William

This is an interesting article. I took a yoga class and was very uncomfortable with the "prayers" at the end of the class and stopped going. I didn't know that the various poses were related to various pagan gods ----- good grief!. The problem with yoga is that it is very self-centered ---- it is not about interacting with other people and reaching out to do good .... India, a bastion of Hinduism, has children starving in the streets and people just step over them without shame. That attitude has a great deal to do with the self-centeredness of Hindu thought and yoga as well. All the yogis I have met over the years are extremely self-centered. No christian is perfect, but we do aspire, with the help of the Lord, to care and reach out to other people. Moreover, I do believe that yoga practice will lead to a mental breakdown in individuals ---- I have seen the trancelike states and the changes in personality ---the moving towards psychotic states of being - the increase in selfishness and the withdrawal from other people that yoga can cause. Even if one were not a christian, I cannot believe that the practice of yoga is "healthy" for individuals or for society. As a christian and imperfect follower of Christ, I do believe that people are opening themselves up to nefarious and self-centered influences with the practice of yoga. I thank you for this article.

[quote] The problem with yoga is that it is very self-centered [\quote]

Many thanks indeed for this very clear statement, and for your support.

I am in South East Asia at the moment, and the following happened.

I was going to my language class and was parking my bike last week. I noticed a young women of european appearance walking backwaords and forwards as if looking for somehting. I asked her "are you lost?" - to which she replied "I am looking for the Yoga class". This yoga class is in the same building as my language class.

Looking for an opportunity to engage in discussion and hopefully to preach the gospel, I asked "Oh, you practise yoga?"

She replied "I'm about to start" - to which I said "Yoga can be very dangerous..." but before having a chance to explain what I meant, she waved her hand at me dismissively and walked of, which of course simply confirms the Bibles description of the current world climate...

Of course, I did not in any way expect another reaction - but had hoped for at least a "why do you say that?" - from someone who has never done yoga( however, I suppose my expectation was somewhat misguided also)

Sadly, the arrogance of youth becomes the bittertness of middle age.

Kindest greetings in Christ,

William

Thank you. Many people are getting into this and is not understanding it or its the origin. We need to stop accepting everything from everywhere and focus our minds on God.

Indeed we do - it's such a common thing to accept that which is "new" and "exciting" as well as being "from eastern traditions" as something good for us.

Pax et Lux

In Christ,

William

what do you think of "Bodytalk" Healing?

I am gathering information about Yoga to help one of my sister's see what i suspected about this practice. One of my other sister's expressed deep concern about this other sister's weekly practice as we are Christian's. When my sister who practice's these exercises presented to me she attends these classes she stated "I just ignore the chants and don't participate in anything but the actual exercises." I think she's in error but is too stubborn to admit it! She's always been very proud. She loves Jesus but I can't help but think with my other sister roots of Yoga as demon worship and anything presented to a demon as worship cannot be reversed or demon worship is demon worship no matter how covered up it is. Please help me build enough information to help my sister who is a retired Assistant Director/Director of the Department of Social Services. She has had years of serious bone/back issues and uses this stuff to help herself. Thanks for any help you may be able to provide. Stay blessed.

I have been practicing yoga for 4 years and I'm a recently registered yoga teacher. I am also a Christian. The deception comes when the physical body "feels better" because we're learning to stand straighter, align our bones and stretch. That was the original lure for me. Then I started have "spiritual experiences" that were leading to some pretty magnificent changes in me and I was "led" to become a teacher and share this "glorious" practice with others. Through the 200 hours of yoga studies, books, philosophy...and you're already "feeling good" and the "spirit is awakening" you don't notice that you really shouldn't be paying attention or studying or practicing any of the concepts presented in school. I can promise you this is a demon laid path. The intent with the breath techniques and the meditation and the chants is to "kill the mind". OUr mind cannot be involved when we delve deeper and deeper. OUr mind will tell us, "no way, I can't do that pose" so it has to be silenced and then what are we making room for? The Lord calls us to train our thought to be obedient to him. that we are to think about all that is good and noble, etc. We are to "fix" our minds on the Lord and his word. Yoga intends to destroy that. "he" comes to us as an angel of light and promises us healing and good things and some of it happens, this is the hook. He designed this to confuse us and to deny there can be anything wrong with it. ALL postures, "asanas" are praising Shiva and the sun god. They are waking up "stuff' inside you that will plunge you into darkness. Even the animal poses..."crow" represents the messenger of the gods. The chants you hear are praises and invocations of other gods. I renounced ALL of yoga just yesterday and I mean everything, every posture, every word, every breath exercise. The enemy comes like a light and stalks like a lion. He came against my family and that's when I turned to the Lord and asked him what is going on. I prayed and sought him everyday for the last two months and he finally showed me, I cannot teach what led me astray and I cannot serve two masters. Students don't know because teachers don't tell them but teachers DO know and they are false witnesses and the Lord convicted me and I have surrender my life back to him. I did none of this on purpose but the enemy is crafty, but GREATER is HE who is in me than he that is in the world. AMEN Look up the article (on line): Yoga: More than Meets the Eyes? By: Reverend Dr. Ed Hird. He practiced yoga for 20 years and his story made me cry and repent. I will pray for you and your sister.

I love this. Thank you for sharing. You have delivered the message directly to the point. God bless and thank you for sharing. Give all the Glory to God s he will do his job Repair and rebuild
Our hearts.

Are you sure it wasn't that you devoted your life to yoga that angered God and then found fulfilment when you devoted your life to God? Also, if you're a Christian then you can't believe in HINDU spirits released through yoga, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are not necessarily releasing Hindu spirits. Demons are quite real and happy to take advantage of any openings you offer to them.

Hi there,

many thanks for your interest.

I did not know the Lord when I did yoga, my life before yoga was filled with drugs and alcohol and chaos.

Yoga caused more problems than the drugs and alcohol, that's for sure.

It was not until I became a Christian that the desire to get wasted all the time stopped. It was not until Christ became a reality to me that I was able to stop this self-destructive course. So, becoming a Christian stopped the Hindu spirits released through yoga oppressing me.

So, a summary of my life before Christ would be:

I did drugs and alcohol. I then did yoga. I then did more drugs and alcohol. I then repented and received the Holy Spirit - and the drugs and other evils stopped.

Praise the Lord, amen.

Pax et Lux

William

Hello there,
I was intrigued by your article which I stumbled across after my mother warned me about the spiritual side of yoga. I believe myself to be a strong Christian (since birth, Anglican background) and before your article had no idea of the 'evils' which these psychedelic practices may present me with.
However, it does concern me that your post seems to be against all aspects of Hinduism and not just yoga. My belief is that we should lead who we can to God but never disrespect our peers and others around us.

It also concerns me that you are basically telling others their faith is wrong for doing yoga for physical reasons, whilst putting God first still. Everyone who believes in and worships God is surely a Christian. You are not a good or bad christian because you back up your own Opinions with scripture. Of Course, I follow and believe in the scripture but it worries me that your experience was before the fulfilment of the Holy Spirit and are turning away strong, fulfilled Christians because of their need to benefit psychically.

Also, the Lord tells us multiple times throughout the bible that we should put all our trust in him. If you trust him fully, then surely you shall not be filled with evil spirits etc. he says he will protect us and therefore I put my trust fully in God as I continue healing my frequently aching back and legs. Though I ask for healing also, physical efforts are obviously not wrong.
May it not be the evil spirits but the stress of unemployment and drugs that lead you to this state?
I pray you consider my words.
God Bless
Riley

Thank you for your open words Riley.

As for being against all aspects of Hinduism, I'm not sure what you mean there. I think it a deceitful religion, worshiping as it does "330 million gods" - This number may be figurative, or written in hyperbole, but the Bible clearly speaks about only one way of Salvation - the Lord Jesus Christ. I am unaware of any aspect in this page that shows disrespect towards Hindus per se, but I would be foolish indeed if I were to simply go along with the moral relativism that seems to have swept the world, which is nothing else than an idea that is designed to stop Christians preaching the gospel of repentance. Repentance from dead works. Repentance from a selfish life. Repentance, as in the case of Hinduism, from a life of idolatry.

Any persons practicing Hinduism that I personally have met have been the most warm hearted and lovely people.

However, the ten commandmets start with: 

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

The Lord goes onto say:

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

I could go on and on, but the entire volume of the Word of God, the Bible, is clear on this point: there is no other way to be saved except you repent, turn to the Lord Jesus Christ and receive His Holy Spirit.

As to trusting in the Lord, I will ask you a question: How can I trust in the Lord when at the same time I am worshiping other gods? (as yoga most surely is)

"physical efforts are obviously not wrong" - fully agree with you - my writing attacks the ideas of yoga, the meditation, copying the positions of Hindu gods (demons) and following false gods who will lead you to Hell.

Pax et Lux

William

Could you please point me to good resources that clearly expose the negative(demonic) spiritual roots of all New Age practices in an in-depth analysis....I'm seeking to find out the spiritual fathers behind each practice,the spiritual masters (gurus) since then, and very importantly the name of the ancient text/writings that each practice is based on originally. I found your article very interesting, very well presented and a great witnessing tool. Many thanks in Christ

Hi there,

many thanks for your kind words. The information in this testimony can be found in many different places. The personal terrors that I experianced have also been experienced by many others. Again, many thanks for your appreciation.

You question covers a broad spectrum - but I can mention a few books that I found helpful in researching New Age. However, please remain mindful that the Lord tells us that he "... would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil."

Three books written from a Judeo-Christian worldview and trustworthy

The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop - a classic that binds many occult practices, both old and new, together.

The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow: The New Age Movement and Our Coming Age of Barbarism by Constance Cumbey - a great way to understand the spiders web of connections.

Earth's Earliest Ages by G. H. Pember - an absolute classic, one of my favourites.

One book written from a non Judeo-Christian worldview and not-trustworthy, but full of interesting links.

The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall

Of course, there are many others that show some, but not all, of what is hidden. There is a reason for this chaos - but that should be apparent.

Write more to discuss if you want.

Sincere greetings

William

All I can say is that there is no accident to the fact that the blessed apostle and evangelist John closes his first letter with the tender warning: "little children, keep yourselves from idols".

I thank you greatly for this comment - you kept it so simple, and spoke only the pure Word of God. Bless you indeed.

Love in Christ Jesus,

William

No, William, the saints and angels who stand with and intercede for us sinners in these last of days bless you for your honesty and sincere, balanced, loving expose of Satan's schemes. Great perils await all who wish to remain faithful in Christ, I have heard and foreseen...

I am a Christian and do yoga as part of my workout every other day. I can agree with you that we
shouldn't be ignorant to the possibilities of obsession related to yoga and general excercise,
however, I would like to ask why you think it is impossible to simply use yoga as a way of
excersising your muscles and releasing your brain.

I am aware that you support God's teachings that we should embrace this life and use it as a way to
reach God's paradise in heaven but if you use yoga as a physical work out and take time out of your
day to do so surely you can use this as a way to not escape God's world but to make time for God and
be with him. To speak with our God and strengthen your relationship with him, also consequently
destroying any opening for demons or spirits to tempt you because of the power of our Lord? As he is
so powerful and loving that any illusion of other spirits can't enter your mind and we should place
our trust in him.

My second query would be why you refer to other 'spririts' as if they exist. This is more of a
personal viewpoint and may be incorrect but I think that God is our only God and that instead of
other spirits tempting us, the devil tempts us or (if you're jewish) our negative human desires
tempt us with our subconscious making up excuses such as 'spirits.' I believe that rather than our
minds being tempted by spirits we instead allow ourselves to create these spirits as an excuse to
follow wrongful paths, and so by focusing our mind on God and 'meditating' during yoga to let go of
our earthly problems and simply love God and ask his advice with no attached emotions to make us
defy his almighty word.

So I think rather than ebolishing yoga we should be aware of why we're doing it and what we could
begin to believe. When I started doing yoga I had no idea that there were any spiritual implications
and had no doubts in God at all. After reading this I do worry and have put my trust in him as I
develop my body. In all honesty I think the depression you felt was from other causes in your life
effecting you more because of you filling your time with yoga and overworking your body and the
spirits you saw were actually your weakend body and mind from depression and overworking being
infiltrated by your subconscious and if you believe in him the devil in disguise. I thank you for
spreading your opinion and hope you can understand why I don't fully agree with your opinions but
instead think we can benefit from the physical improvement offered by yoga but use it to enhance our
relationship with God. God bless :)

I am surprised about your innocence about 'Yoga'
Pls check what wikipedia itself telling about Yoga.
also check other Hindu myth and others say abt yoga who introduced this.
Moreover pls check about the Holy Bible which is the Word OF God says and believe it.
Do you think only by yoga you will get Healthy life. You can do no of simple excercise and Bible Meditaion which will make you real healthy person both physical and spiritual.
wikipedia article is as follows.
Yoga (/ˈjoʊɡə/; Sanskrit: योग, Listen) is a physical, mental, and spiritual practice or discipline which originated in India. There is a broad variety of schools, practices and goals[1] in Hinduism, Buddhism (including Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddhism[2][3][4]) and Jainism.[5][6][7][6] The best-known are Hatha yoga and Raja yoga.

The origins of Yoga have been speculated to date back to pre-Vedic Indian traditions, but most likely developed around the sixth and fifth centuries BCE, in ancient India's ascetic circles, which are also credited with the early sramana movements.[8][note 1] The chronology of earliest texts describing yoga-practices is unclear, varyingly credited to Hindu Upanishads[9] and Buddhist Pāli Canon,[10] probably of third century BCE or later. The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali date from the first half of the 1st millennium CE,[11][12] but only gained prominence in the 20th century.[13] Hatha yoga texts emerged around 11th century CE, and in its origins was related to Tantrism.[14][15]

Yoga gurus from India later introduced yoga to the west,[16] following the success of Swami Vivekananda in the late 19th and early 20th century.[16] In the 1980s, yoga became popular as a system of physical exercise across the Western world.[15] Yoga in Indian traditions, however, is more than physical exercise, it has a meditative and spiritual core.[17] One of the six major orthodox schools of Hinduism is also called Yoga, which has its own epistemology and metaphysics, and is closely related to Hindu Samkhya philosophy.[18]

Many studies have tried to determine the effectiveness of yoga as a complementary intervention for cancer, schizophrenia, asthma, and heart disease. The results of these studies[19][20] have been mixed and inconclusive, with cancer studies suggesting none to unclear effectiveness, and others suggesting yoga may reduce risk factors and aid in a patient's psychological healing process.

I further wish to say is the asanas or postures are inducing the devil activity inside us and lead to destruction.
so pla aware of the deception of YOGA.

Many thanks for taking the time to comment on this writing.

To your first question: "why you think it is impossible to simply use yoga as a way of excersising your muscles" - As yoga is part of a false religion, a satanic delusion, leading millions to hell, I have to warn against it. There are many forms of exercise that I could do, so why would I, as a spirit-filled Bible reading, born-again Christian, why would I pick a practise which is designed to bring me into contact with evil spirits?

There is no problem with stretching of course. But when you meditate and perhaps focus on the religious aspects of yoga, then this begins to fall into idolatry. You need to distinguish between purely stretching and yoga itself.  If you are JUST stretching and are not involved in the philosophical and religious parts of yoga, then there is nothing wrong with that, neither have I written anything about that. 

Your second query: "why you refer to other 'spririts' as if they exist" - sorry - is this a serious question? Here are a few scriptures to read (in context) and ponder:

Mark 6:7
Mark 9:17-29
Luke 4:33
Luke 7:21
Luke 11:24-26
Luke 13:11-13
Acts 16:16
Acts 19:12-13

The Bible goes onto to decribe how a third of the heavenly host rebelled and fell.

We are called to be ambassadors for Christ - and this entails a specific way of life. Practises from other religions have nothing to do with that way of life.

Pax et Lux

William

If you agree about the spiritual danger of these practices, and wish only to perform stretching and breathing associated with them, then why on earth not seek some 'secular', non-yogic-related form of exercise? Or is it that your treacherous heart is leading you to secretly desire the forbidden fruits yoga subtly implies and promises?? I say this not to condemn or shame you, but to give a tender and sincere warning. Many blessings in Christ to all who hear and heed these words.

Thank you JayC - for your support

In Christ,

William

It's weird...I got pretty heavily into the whole 'synchronicity' New Age thing, which now i see is the extent and scope of the devils' powers to even alter space-time event horizon type stuff. And yet the true God sends us the folks we need at the right time FOR OUR BENEFIT, not to lead us down to nothing like the Pied Piper of old legend. Finding this page has helped me loosen the binding chains I foolishly allowed the evil angels to place on my soul and confirmed for me the deep reality of the spiritual warzone our present age is engulfed in. Yet have no fear, little flock - says our Blessed Lord and Everlasting Savior - for it is the Father's good pleasure to GIVE you the Kingdom...to Him be all the glory in light unapproachable for ever and ever. Amen.

Your words are kind and humbling and I thank you greatly for writing them.

Sincere greetings in Christ,

William

Thank you brother for your post. Its great to see your spiritual maturity and discernment in this matter of Yoga. I live in Australia and was recently very troubled by the fact that my little girl's school (public school) is introducing yoga to kindergarten grade kids. We protested to the teacher and made clear that we will not be allowing our daughter to participate. We also made it known to other parents that we are not participating.

Some parents are following our path but sadly others are not and most troubled fact is some of those are Christian who doesn't see the harm in yoga.

In all things where we are unsure, look at the roots of the object and you soon be clear of what you should do.

The practice of yoga has always been related to physical, mental & spiritual well-being. Meditation forms a big part of yoga.

I would ask why would one, especially Christian open themselves up for other form of spiritual channeling of energy. If you are spiritually bonded, you will be in trouble.

Thank you SO much for your humble, honest stand against yoga. I have recently noticed how the practice of yoga is rapidly increasing in the body of Christ. I have told several people in my sphere of influence that there is no such thing as "Christian yoga!" The saddest, most alarming thing is, they vehemently disagree with me! God bless you dear man of God...I will be praying for you and your ministry!

Many thanks for your warm and encouraging words ...

Let us continue to take a stand, to preach the Word of God with boldness, to seek Him and His will in prayer, and give our lives for the brethren.

Pax et Lux

William

Agreed...and I, once a young and zealous pastor, had my well-intended censure and warning concerning these practices used as a nail in my feet when they kicked me from the ministry there. Satanic mind control is REAL and it has heavily infected the church just as the Blessed Apostle Paul promised. God deliver us! And may He open the eyes of all His undershepherds to the curses they allow on the people entrusted to them by being ignorant and unwilling to a) carefully, fairly research these issues and b) stand firm against the spiritual forces of evil that OF COURSE will seek to infiltrate and subvert God's faithful people.

Amen brother

God bless your journey ..

Pax et Lux

William

Many thanks for your warm and supportive words.

It is indeed strange how some, Christians included, are so adamant in their refusal to even consider the occultic nature and false-god worship of yoga. I am both the author of this specific page, as well as one of the moderators for this site, and I also am occasionally troubled at some of the responses that people leave here.

The information contained in this web page can be gathered from books and from the internet of course, but my own experiance of being freed by the power of the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit can be experienced by anyone.

We can but pray for our friends.

Again, many thanks for your kind response.

Pax et Lux

William

Thanks for the post, I get that yoga is not designed for Chrisitians and can open spiritual doors but can someone help me to understand, if I am doing stretches that are found in yoga/considered to be yoga moves is that the same thing as practising yoga?
I am not looking for spritual enlightment etc from it, I just stretch when I finish working out

Hi there,

difficult question to answer, however asana can be rather specific, and (using their english title) greeting the sun, or raising like a cobra, or even just sitting in lotus, are not "natural" stretch positions...rathermore are consciencely thought out.

It would be foolish of me to suggest that if I was lying on the floor and just happened to stretch because it felt good, then I would be engaging in yogic practises. It's the accompaning pranayama (breathing) and the meditation and the connecting ideas that present doorways.

Pax et lux

William

Thanks very much for your insight.

God bless

Even though Scripture is clear that we are in a spiritual warfare, I don't think that most Christians (myself included) live with a vigilance and discernment of deceptions like the spiritual aspects of Yoga. I know one "strong" Christian who practices yoga and another Christian who practices TM and is bi-polar. I think Scripture is clear that we are to cut off all associations with idols and false gods. In our popular culture....emphasis on "self" has become a false god. Interesting that the underlying spiritual focus of Yoga and meditation tries to deal with obliteration of "self." Self-esteem is another popular theme in our modern culture and yet...Scripture tells us to worship God - to esteem Him.

Many thanks inded for your supportive words...

And how true they ring ... "self" is indeed the knew god

Pax et Lux,

William

 

I know a few Christians who are involved with TM and/or yoga. I think the problem is that many Christians are ignorant of Scripture and lack discernment. They buy into popular culture and don't practice spiritual warfare at all.

All I can say is: Amen !

Praise God that we have the capability nowadays to speak the truth on the internet ... and attempt to spread the news of His Sons life, death, resurrection, and soon return...

love in Christ Jesus

William

Hi,

I am an Indian and a Hindu.

I respect your views even if i consider them to be wrong. Yet, i will not try to change your views. However, i must correct one wrong which is about my Nation which can't be taken lightly.

You said -- "Is it not a strange situation that in India, where the teaching of karma and reincarnation has been alive for longer than anywhere else in the world, that the economic progress there only breeds social injustice and that poverty, starvation and terrible suffering just continue to increase?"

Allow me to present a rebut of the above view, point-wise:

1. Economic Progress / Social Injustice / Poverty are due to Karma and Reincarnation Theories:
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India's GDP prior to UK's invasion was 15% of world's GDP
India's GDP prior to Islamofacism (began around 1000 AD) was more than 55% of World's GDP

Prior to Islamic invasion, Indian ladies held Public Debates on Spiritual Topics, were Warriors, were Saints, were free to Wear whatever They Chose To, even if that meant being nude. (Proof: Indian temple motifs & idols and traditional Indian clothes)

In fact, the only reason the Entire World came searching to loot India was because of its riches !

Famous traveler Historians (like Fa-Hien, Ibn-E-Batuta) during various periods traveled across India and were at a loss of words by seeing the material prosperity. They were even more astounded by compassionate nature of the natives. Fa-Hein used to be astonished to see houses without doors and locks.

Would you also say that India's prosperity was due to Indian's believing in Karma and Reincarnation ?

I can explain why India was prosperous materially and prosperous in own religion at the same time, but that would be diverting from current topic. If anyone wants they can email me. I can certainly inform about the reasons behind problems my country face. However, that's not the topic of discussion.

2. Karma and Reincarnation are not about "Forgetting Duty or Accepting Physical / Social / Mental Violence"
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The corollary that - "All Bad Experiences Are Due to Bad Karma and one must not help a person caught up in trouble" is false.

Same Krishna in Geeta says that the Network of Karma is difficult to comprehend by a human due to its span as well as the way Karma works.

Krishna says it is the Duty of a human to act according to "One's Own Dharma" and leave the results in the hands of God.

That good Karma is like a Seed and one needs to continue to act according to "One's Own Dharma".

To always understand, determine and act out one's own Dharma in a situation one finds herself in.

In fact, that is the reason Krishna in the same text (which you have referenced) asks his friend to pick up his weapons and fight the war against evil, even if they happen to be family.

(Context: the friend was a "Kshatriya" whose duty is to protect weak and act against wrong-doers who harm society --- Government / Army / Police in today's language)

Hence, India's ills are not due to Indians believing in Karma and Reincarnation.

Hi there,

many thanks indeed for your words and understanding.

I am actually the author of this paper on the deception of yoga as well as one of the volunteer forum moderators - but I appreciated your words on the subject so approved them.

Firstly, I would like to state that these surmisations were taken from other men who have also a background in the spiritual as well as an understanding in history.

I did not want to blame yoga specifically for the ills which India suffers - but more wanted to point out that yoga has not helped much. I agree with your summary of it's history; the robbing by the colonials, the islamification which brings along it's inherent stupification and backward looking ideas. 

However, I have seen hundreds of times that when a man (or woman) gets into a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that thier life changes dramatically for the best and old addictions and sins are released and this person finds peace and purpose for perhaps the first time in their lives.

Whereas I have also seen that when someone does awaken kundalini, chaos ensues, and the same person can lose all touch touch with reality and peace with oneself, as well as being plagued with demons and evil spirits.

So, we are commanded by Jesus Christ, in the Bible which is the Word of God, to get born again, and life a live accordingly. walking in a certain newness - amongst which is to stop worshiping false Gods and listening to doctrines of demons.

Pax et lux

William

there is no doubt Yoga is a spiritual practice in addition to physical and mental. It brings all parts of a breingg into union, for the practice of meditation. One not need to practice Yoga to have a spiritual experience, it can happen to anyone. We all have spirit.

Yoga is a practice based of action, not philosophy. One can speak about Shiva and Christ all day and never understand what yoga is.

Ganesh, the son of Shiva who has the head of an elephant, is the destroy of obstacles. Chanting the mantra of Ganesh gives one an opportunity of surpassing that which opposes them. Shiva destroys the ego, and with it greed, aversion, and suffering.

There is no deception in Yoga. It is a practice to meditate and still the mind. When the mind is stilled, one may experience their true self, which no other can dictate. One cannot think of something which is beyond the boundaries of mind. So Yoga offers only something which can be realised through practice. The first limb is Yama, respect for ones environment. Respect for all which is not of yourself. The second is respect for ones self.

Those who are given rite of passage to Heaven are bound by God alone. No man may ever condemn another, and presume to speak for God for passage into Heaven.

Hi there.

The deception that is written about here is that the intense spiritual is not taught as such in western yoga classes. That awakening kundalini is a major aim in yoga which is never even mentioned in some classes either is also a deception. That yoga come directly from religious texts from false religions which are totally opposed to the core beliefs of Christianity is also never mentioned in these western yoga classes and therefore also can be classified as a deception.

You are correct in that "No man may ever condemn another, and presume to speak for God for passage into Heaven" -

However, the Son of God, Jesus Christ, says the following in Mark 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

As also he says in John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

It's not man that speaks here, but the son of God, Jesus Christ Himself that speaks, through His Holy Word.

Jesus Christ is the Way - not some false religion where they worship rats and elephants and other creeping things ... a religion will take it's followers to hell...

Repent of your evil beliefs and find peace with Jesus Christ before you die and spend an eternity in hell. He died on a cross for you, died willingly to save us from such a fate.

Pax et Lux

William

I've been doing Yoga exercises since I picked up a paperback book of exercises in the 70's at the age of 16. I'm not a yoga fanatic but still do my yoga exercises here and there when I can. I never ever thought of it as anything but stretching. I always felt great after and felt like I was taking care of my body. I do have to say about a year ago, I was about almost done with my yoga tape and my mind was releasing all kinds of emotions. I am very much concerned of losing my 89 year old mom so while exercising was also crying. Suddenly, a voice spoke to me "everythings going to be alright". Honest, no lying, I heard this voice. I was not scared but thought to myself that God just spoke to me. He was telling me everythings will be ok. I only told my mom and daughter because I thought people would think I am strange or sick. That was a year ago, I have never had this happen to me since. What is your opinon? I consider myself a Christian, Baptist.

Greetings from Scotland and many thanks for taking the time to read this blog.

You ask for my opinion about the voice? Well, I cannot say. It may have been the Lord. I suppose it could have been something else also - depends on the outcome and on how fitting with what actually happened.

I am just careful when it coms to spiritual things. As the background of yoga is so terrible, I avoid it. In that respect I have to compare yoga to fornication ... it may feel good, but will lead to disastrous consequences, which may only become apparent when we enter into the afterlife.

Pax et Lux

William

I don't credit this at all but I wonder why our pineal gland does this action trip and the heart does more than what we are told, And why all these internal parts of us does these thing. And all what we have like the heart, pineal gland and the others etc.
But why does our organs and Brains have these traits? If we can't feed them cause that what you have to do to all parts of your body is feed it, Lungs need air, stomach food, brain needs data/learning, ect. But hearing this I understand what you're say it does make sense but these things can happen without yoga practice I had an experience myself.
But by all the laws of God, if this is wrong I will follow the path of God, but what was Jesus trying to show us lots of things being doctrine really, but what was said to the guy who write this does make sense.

We do indeed have to feed all parts of ourselves - but we are to feed them correctly, with that which is pleasing to the Lord.

Pax et Lux

William

I disagree. I believe in the Christian God and I practice yoga for the simple intention of relaxation and stretching. I sit all day in a chair, and am a high stress person. At first, I was concerned with the practice, but after speaking with others who 1) are Atheist and refuse to believe in any type of God yet practice yoga and 2) other believers of Christ who practice, they confirmed that it is just a form of exercise and meditation. Simple as that. No need to chant, no need to ask any other deity for focus and peace other than your own. If one is uncomfortable with going to a studio where they may have symbols or altars, they can simply get a DVD and practice at home, like I do. Kundalini can only be awakened when you actually desire and focus for it to (4-6 hours a day, hello?). The average person attending a 30 minute class is thinking "I need a milkshake after this." At least that is what I am thinking, and that tells me that I am in no way practicing Buddhism or any faith at that point. I decided long ago that God gave me a brain and intention, and He doesn't require me to be afraid of life in order to worship Him. There is a beautiful world out there...I hope you find it.

Demonic oppression is real. Most of the time it happens indirectly, due to ignorance; putting trust into an instructor you deem kindhearted. Christian yoga is an oxymoron like a Christian ouija board would be. I wasn't raised in church; i had no guidance toward the Lord; I had only heard of Him. I was raised and instructed in darkness and hadn't a clue I indirectly opened doors that were not meant to open even if I didn't believe in it. I listened to my parent because that's what I knew. I did not know what the Holy Spirit was but I do now and the Lord got my attention along the way. I chose to listen. Since I grew up on the dark side and have come to the light, I'll always be able to recognize the dark. It's kind of like a person that speaks German because they were born in Germany but they moved to the States at twenty five and are now 86 years old;for sixty one years they predominantly speak English but if they hear a stranger in public speaking German, they recognize it without even asking one question. Of course, on an individual basis, you ultimately have to make your own decision. Fellow brothers and sisters in Christ can only give a word of caution that was given to us/you by our Lord. It's up to each individual to take heed the warnings and not base our choices on our own emotions. God won't take away free will. Our salvation is for our eternity but if we are saved it is not just ours while on this earth. What I mean by that is the whole stumbling block situation. You are watched by unbelievers. Even if you truly are covered in Christ's protection in doing yoga as you come across as saying, its not about you, but about the curious one who has recently begun to seek the Lord. She sees you as an inspiration; she is unaware of how to process discernment/conviction and she sees you and hears you say there's nothing dangerous about it. she partakes (again, she's fresh in the faith and is looking for guidance) she does not know how vulnerable she is. She says, "If this strong godly woman that I look to to learn more about Christ says it's safe for her then it's ok for me too." Unbeknownst to her, she has now indirectly opened a door that wasn't meant to be opened. This was me not specifically yoga, but similar. I can't say why I chose to listen to God, but I'm so thankful I did because He helped me out; He helped me see. For years, I didn't understand what the purpose could've possibly been that I had to experience many demonic experiences as I did. Now, I see that it just may be that it was there because when I got out, I would help someone who doesn't acknowledge thin ice from thick ice. This may seem corny but I'll say it anyway... I may have been installed with faulty programs, but all the while He was trying to override those programs with the ones that were meant to be installed but without force, until one day I made the choice to comply. Sure, my "installed programs from birth" and "His guidance" will have conflict, but my wholehearted goal is to have me be the way He wants me to be for Him.

Forgive any errors or any confusing examples- I think in pictures. Just please remember the ones that are watching you and you may or may not know. In yoga people are putting their trust in the instructor, so if they say breathe this way and it's called...yadayadayada you haven't the time to quickly look up the meaning so you do it. If you trust them (instructor) because your friends do and they're a likeable person, you end up following that lead, even though it seems you were wary from the get go...it appears you let your guard down. Just please be careful.

Hi, instead of turning to an atheist and luke warm christians for answers on this become born again and turn to Jesus for answers and He will show you yoga is evil and give you rest

Many thanks for your ideas.

As someone else wrote here "If there is an INKLING that yoga can invite the demonic, why risk it"...

The fact that the background to Yoga is demonic without question, and is actually well known, makes me wonder why people still insist that it's harmless. Agreed, my practice was to extreme - but I was doing it to cover up some extreme hurt in my life. I broke through to the other side indeed, into an area (dimension) which we are to leave alone. It exists. I am not alone in this, many people in the world have experianced the evil side of the spiritual, and many more are thereby decieved.

It's interesting that some confirmed to you that Yoga is "just a form of exercise and meditation" - I wonder if this conclusion was arrived at by study and prayerful contemplation of the Word of God - or arrived at just by experiance? Those who invented it and in whose books it was first written about say otherwise.

Anyway, I think it was Matthew Henry who said "there are none so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see."

BUt I know it was the Lord who said: James 4:4, Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. 5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
 6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
 7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
 8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Pax et Lux

William

I have done yoga about 5 times. I thoroughly enjoyed it at those times, and I too thought " if I'm a Christian, none of this new age stuff will touch me. HAH! The enemy loves this way of deceiving. Like shooting fish in a barrel. I'm watching a documentary on spiritual warfar and it is AMAZING the things Christians (I) didn't know! I thought demons couldn't touch me "because of the Blood", I thought when I got saved I was automaticly an untouchable to Satan! I thought pleading the blood in a situation was all I needed to do to "fix" an issue. We need to repent. After that we need to command the demons/satan to leave and take back the ground WE gave them.
We do it so thoughtlessly and I believe yoga is a big one. Like a wolf in sheeps clothing, here it came cloaked in "better health" and "relaxing" and "good exercise".....I had NO idea the history and religious background yoga had. Everyone seems to be doing it so it MUST be safe! Nope. No thank you. I do not want to be double minded or Serve two gods. I am in Christ alone. If there is an INKLING that yoga can invite the demonic, why risk it?! And what say you to God when you die? "Oh, sorry....I didn't know." It is our duty, to ourselves, to GET educated. Love to you all. I pray God would open the eyes of the blind and ears of the deaf, that He would give us all courage to share and warn in love, and that He would protect William as he continues to help educate all of us that are seeking answers. Godly, biblical answers. May God bless you and protect you, William, and everyone else that is choosing "the road less travelled" and speaking up about this.

Thank you very much indeed for your comment and kind words.

I especially liked your comment "If there is an INKLING that yoga can invite the demonic, why risk it" ...

I'm very glad you found the truth for yourself...

in the Love of Jesus Christ

William

I'm a warlock and plan to spend the remaining days of the trifecta casting deadly spells on the Christians who wrote this libelous article. You will be followed by a dark cloud for your remaining days.

BOOOOOO

Well, I'm a Christian and I will spend some days during a coming time of prayer in praying that the Lord Jesus grants you repentance before you die, and that he reveals the great love of God to you.

Pax et Lux

William

Thank you for your insights, I have been concerned about "Christians" that participate in yoga. One concern I have for you has more to do with salvation than yoga. One of the thieves on the cross beside Jesus asked him for salvation and Jesus granted him salvation that very day (Luke 23:43), and yet he never got baptized. Although baptism is an important step of obedience, the bible does not teach it as part of salvation, but I did very much appreciate your accounts and views on yoga.

Many thanks for your comments...

The Lord granting salvation to the thief on the cross is an interesting point, but not one that I personally can use to prove any point...

Before I could say that you have shown that baptism under the new testament was not needed by using the example of the thief on the cross, you would need to explain to me the following points:

1) Was the thief not still under the Old Testament laws?

If the thief was indeed still under the Old Testament laws, then it would actually not have been possible for him to be saved, for it says in Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Christ was neither dead not ressurected at this point... therefore the thief was not able to confess anything. Christ was not yet dead, and the scriptures say in Romans 6:3,4 that we are indeed baptized into His death..It says in Hebrews 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

2) Perhaps the thief was already baptised? ... as we read in Matthew 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. Perhaps the thief was one of them, and then if the Gospel was already in effect (which, as we have seen above, does not seem likely) - the thief may have been more likened unto a backsldden child of God, who repented before his time was up... If you read the account of his words to Christ whilst on the cross, then it would seem that he was indeed a believer - for he gives a better understanding of what Christ was about to go through than even the Apostles at that time - for he both speaks of Christs entering into His kingdom, as well as acknowledges Christ sinless nature.

Christ granted salvation to others at various times during His ministry - and this was also questioned ...

Mark 16 and Acts 2:38 (among other scriptures) seem to sum the need for baptism up quite nicely.

If you desire to discuss, please do write again.

Sincerely,

William

I am a Muslim and I already knew that yoga was bad from Islamic scholars but it wasnt in detail as much as this so thankyou.(btw if ur thinkin y a Muslim is looking at this, its coz most of the concepts are similar) ^ scary story, well done on the recovery and Inshallah others will stop before it gets too late, expecially if its as dangerous as your experience - there are enough possesions/mental health issues without us having to add to it. Anyways thanx for the info again.

Indeed, hearing something supportive from someone of a different faith is indeed uplifting.

The information I included here can for the most part be gained from various internet sites and books - and the personal part is not unique to myself either.

But nonetheless many thanks for your supportive words ...

William

Would normal stretching be considered "yoga"? What if I just stretch and don't worship any gods or do any of the breathing techniques? In fact, just more of my personalized stretches but for flexibility. I'm a dancer and it's very necessary for my movement.
I never got the right feeling from yoga - was never interested in it. I did bikram for a few months but it was only in the hope of being able to get where I wanted faster as far flexibility goes
Because of the heated room! Heat apparently looses the muscles and long story short I was trying to get into a middle split and thought it would help.
Anyways lol
This is all really crazy how a lot of these things that we encounter now a days are more popular than ever
I never knew about chakras yoga "oneness" meditation astrology numerology expanding your consciousness, till the internet blew up.
This world is totally twisted! I love the sober state, it always feels right. Being under the influence of drugs like mushrooms, lsd or dmt is really scary. Seems like fun and giggles at first but once you really get to pay attention and set all the rubbish aside you can see the material and how in those states of awareness one can never wish to stay there forever.

Hi There,

normal stretching is of course just that - stretching. It's the meditation and breathing and the whole concept that is a mess and leads to the spirit world.

Thanks for using the website and your comments

Kindest greetings from Scotland

William

Hello! I wanted to say...I appreciate your testimony on the yoga practice. I have a friend on facebook who is an instructor who claims to be a Christian and this was the 2nd time I posted a article on yoga and she was getting real angry with me-like calling me negative and other names. She will not look into this to see the truth,I was just thinking how you guys need a share button on an article like the one you posted,then I wound up figuring it out and posted it :) my nerves are shot right now from arguing my point with her. How do you get this thru to someone that is an instructor who hasn't had a bad experience yet? She's getting paid so satan leaves her alone-then she goes to hell for not listening to me-so sad!!! Do you have any recommendations for me?

Hi there,

many thanks for your kind comments.

it is indeed a hard thing to watch a friend blindly ignore the meaning behind this satanic practise ... 

I cannot give you a "cure all" answer (as much as I desire to) - especially for those that choose evil over the truth. Truthfully - only prayer will help - and please do not think that I say this lightly, or as a way of shrugging of your sincere question. I know of no other way that will help your friend.

Don't give up, but don't push too hard either - 

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

One day she will know the truth

Sincere Greetings

William

Major gurus of yoga have been found to be sexual perverts. Yoga leads to perversion. Google for shishy Mangrove Yoga Ashram and get more enlighnment.

Speaking about Indian culture, 10 million girl foetuses have been aborted in past 20 years. Reason is defects in Indian Culture. Additionally, its own followers have had to shed several traits/customs because these were a misfit with modern society, traits such as Sati (burn a widow), caste system, untouchability, etc. Now, if some of the features of hunduism are evil, what then is the credibility of other parts of hunduism.

Many thanks for your interest, and your supportive comments ...

Pax et Lux

William

The points you have made in your article are your views and your views only. I practice yoga two or three times a week and it makes me feel better, ridding me of headaches and neck pain. If something takes the stress of life and removes aches and pains how can that be bad? I still believe in God and pray to him and it's normally when I'm at my most relaxed - after yoga.

Greetings

Many thanks for reading this blog...

Just want to point out that many christians believe that yoga is a hindu practise...and therefore not of God. The yogis in the east warn people to be careful also - due to the nature of kundalini, so this view is not really mine and mine alone.

I myself choose to avoid that which may be an offence to the Lord

Pax et Lux

William

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